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Nathaniel Walden's avatar

To be frank, your male friends sound like horrible people. Anecdotally, of the 20-30 close-ish male friends I've had in my adult life, maybe one or two would behave like that, and the rest of us would give him shit when he did (especially those of us in LTRs).

Maybe we just come from different cultural backgrounds, but your male friends don't seem representative. It'd be interesting to see a poll that asked women how frequently they encounter that behavior in their dating lives.

Otherwise, good read!

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J. Allen's avatar

Appreciate the perspective, and I agree that it's gross when men ghost women after sex, or are simply using the apps to hook up with as many women as possible.

However, this dynamic is how dating apps function based on how men and women swipe--men swipe right on 60% of women, women swipe right on 4.5% of men. Women aggressively target the best looking men exclusively, and then those guys can behave badly without consequence. For better or worse, men will sleep with women who are less attractive, but not be willing to offer them a relationship--but that's the dynamic of how people match on the apps. We don't get nearly as many matches as women either (read Lana Li's work on this), which is why once men have abundance, they are loath to give it up. I agree with you this ends up badly for a lot of women, but it also ends up badly for the vast majority of men who can't even get a date!

The other thing I don't get is the whole "de-centering" men thing. That's the product of a political ideology propagated and propagandized on TikTok and Reels. Men don't worry about whether we're centering women--most of us are in some form or fashion. Cartoons Hate Her wrote a great piece recently, titled, "The Problem of Being a Straight Woman is you Have to Like Men." If you hate men, and want to de-center them, why not just be single and find other things to do? On the other hand, if you like men and want a relationship, you can't hate us--like, that's just not going to work. https://www.cartoonshateher.com/p/the-problem-with-being-a-straight

It seems many women today are so concerned with "de-centering" men and overly dramatizing some of the downsides of dating (they happen to men too--I was recently ghosted by a woman after it seemed things were going really well), they're shooting themselves in the foot and making things way too complicated.

One suggestion that I've adopted in my own life to keep me sane: meet people IRL. Get off the apps. It's entirely possible to have a vibrant dating life by meeting people where people have always met: concerts, parties, street fairs, bars, coffee shops, restaurants, sporting events, etc. I've found that it's much more likely to develop authentic relationships and meet higher quality people this way, than what we will typically find on the apps.

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